Natalie Winters
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Natalie Winters hosting today, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon.
We've got a packed show, so many things that we want to hit, but I think the number one thing that we've learned from the Trump administration is that they are very responsive.
If we make noise, we get results.
And I think that this Chinese student visa issue is one of those things, just like it was the FEMA aid to countries or rather counties or citizens who, what was it?
It was disrespectful or weren't supportive of the Israeli government.
When we made enough noise, we saw that provision very swiftly removed from the new DHS guidelines.
And I think that we need to hold a similar line here.
on the Chinese visa front, which by the way, the current number hovers, maybe it's a little lower than around 300,000 students.
So I don't understand, even if you think that's great, which it's not, we're certainly going to get into that, why we would be doubling that number.
I think the brief summary of the argument is these are not students.
These are spies.
The short-term consequences are IP theft, espionage, cybersecurity incidents, stealing all of our most valuable information.
I don't understand why we should be training the next generation at best of Chinese Communist Party leaders and apparatchiks, at worst the people that we'll be meeting on the battlefield.
But I think the longer-term implications, and frankly their republic ending, are that we are essentially creating our own demise.
This might be the best example that I've ever seen of managed decline.
The idea that we should hollow out American universities, take seats in classrooms from the people I went to high school with, the people that you raised as your children and grandchildren, and give them to foreigners who are mandated per China's Article 7 of their national intelligence law to advance the interests of the party.
And spare me the cultural...
immersion idea.
How many American students are in China?
I think it's what, less than 500.