Natalie Winters

One of them is a TheyThem.

by the name of Erica Chenoweth, who essentially came up with that 3.5% figure.

And the other is Steven Levitsky, who has used basically the, I would say, guise of studying other countries and how those regimes have been toppled, typically led by United States back to color revolutions, but how they have deposed regimes.

And I think now we've certainly seen those tactics be used here against President Trump.

And why this is so important is because you can see the media, I think, already sort of creating the permission structure for violence, just outright violence to be used in these protests.

I mean, we've already seen it.

We've seen the pictures.

You know, there's a wild Axios story out today.

You sent it to me, Steve, but...

tracking the increase of Americans, specifically on the left, who think that political violence is okay.

And it's reaching new heights.

As of January 16, 34% of those polled agree that Americans, quote, may have to resort to violence in order to save our country.

That's up from 11%.

in October and down from 40% at the June No Kings protest.

That, of course, being the Indivisible, all these sort of left-wing groups coming together under this big consortium to basically depose Trump.

And I think there's a very telling quote in that article from the executive director of the Women's March.

And I'll read it.

It says, I don't think that there's an intervention that will have the MAGA regime see the error of its ways.

I do think there are interventions that demonstrate the political, electoral, and financial costs

of authoritarianism.