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Natasha Singer

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308 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I thought, I mean, I've been told my whole life that computer science is a good place to be in.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I mean, math as well, but computer science always felt stable to me.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

So yeah, at the time, that was my mentality.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And he does really, really well.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Summa cum laude, he's on the dean's list.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

He's worked as a teaching assistant for the more basic computer science courses.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

He did all the right things.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And yet, as he starts applying to internships, reality hits that, in fact, coding is not going to magically produce a host of job options.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Starting fall of 2023, I believe I applied to 90 positions before that summer of 2024.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Probably got, I think, three or four interviews and no offers.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Wait, sorry, can I just interject for a minute here?

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Sure.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

In the fall of 2023, you applied to 90 different internship programs for the next summer in tech.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

You got a couple of interviews, but no internship offers?

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

What kind of companies were you applying to?

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

This was anything in Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, anything around kind of Midwest area, probably midsize, I'd say.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Right.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

The thing that's striking is many students I spoke to applied to 90, hundreds, maybe even thousands of jobs and didn't get a single offer.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And neither does Nathan.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Yeah.