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Natasha Singer

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The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

up near Cleveland, northeast.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

One of the recent grads I spoke with whose story really resonated for me is named Nathan Spencer, and he's 22, and he grew up in a small town outside of Cleveland.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Let's see, I probably first encountered a computer through those big boxy family computers probably when I was in middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And he enters school just as this coding careers promise is becoming entrenched in American popular culture and education.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Everybody is on computers.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I mean, we were introduced to like the Google suite and like writing on a computer like in fifth grade and middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And he talks about watching some of the videos we talked about earlier and the hour of code and learning coding basics in middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Yeah.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And as he enters high school, his interest and his learning in computer science deepens.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

The AP course I took, a lot of that was focused on games.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

We made Minesweeper.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

We collaboratively as a class made like a dungeon crawler board game.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I made Tetris for my final project.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And as a high school senior, he takes an AP computer science class and it ends up being a really formative experience.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

He said he had a really great teacher who taught him a lot.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I think that's kind of where that interest sparked was we'd make a game and then my teacher would drop something like, oh, like, did you know that everything that you're working with is actually just stored in like a

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

But along the way, he discovers he loves programming.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

He loves being able to make stuff with code.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's not just the promise of money.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's the promise of making stuff.