Natasha Singer

We made Minesweeper.

We collaboratively as a class made like a dungeon crawler board game.

I made Tetris for my final project.

And as a high school senior, he takes an AP computer science class and it ends up being a really formative experience.

He said he had a really great teacher who taught him a lot.

I think that's kind of where that interest sparked was we'd make a game and then my teacher would drop something like, oh, like, did you know that everything that you're working with is actually just stored in like a

But along the way, he discovers he loves programming.

He loves being able to make stuff with code.

It's not just the promise of money.

It's the promise of making stuff.

Right.

He seems like he is the ideal person for the pipeline that the tech industry is building.

So then he goes to college at Ohio State.

And I kind of thought back in that moment to how much I enjoyed programming, how much I enjoyed creating on a computer.

And I was like, OK, I'll pivot to programming.

Computer science.

And after a brief moment as a math major, he decides to switch to the field that he loves, computer science.

And as you switched from math to computer science, how did you think about the potential career skills and job prospects?

I mean, honestly, at the time, this would have been...

Fall of 2021, I thought nothing of it.