Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Natasha Singer

👤 Speaker
308 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It seems like my degree doesn't matter.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Some of my skills are now worthless.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's too demoralizing.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Some students told us that while they're looking for tech jobs, some of them are applying for fast food jobs at Chipotle.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

One student was working as a clerk at Walgreens.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's not the kind of job they envisioned when they were told if they just learned to code, they'd get six-figure jobs.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's no longer the golden ticket.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's the tarnished ticket.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And some of these students ended up moving back home, rich in degrees, poor in employment.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And when I called them, they were applying for jobs out of their childhood bedrooms.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

up near Cleveland, northeast.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

One of the recent grads I spoke with whose story really resonated for me is named Nathan Spencer, and he's 22, and he grew up in a small town outside of Cleveland.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Let's see, I probably first encountered a computer through those big boxy family computers probably when I was in middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And he enters school just as this coding careers promise is becoming entrenched in American popular culture and education.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Everybody is on computers.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I mean, we were introduced to like the Google suite and like writing on a computer like in fifth grade and middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And he talks about watching some of the videos we talked about earlier and the hour of code and learning coding basics in middle school.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Yeah.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And as he enters high school, his interest and his learning in computer science deepens.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

The AP course I took, a lot of that was focused on games.