Natasha Singer

You know, I asked him about it, and he had a very nuanced view of

Yeah, I think it was jobs will be plentiful.

I won't run into crazy monetary risks.

And also I'll get to create what I want.

I think that was a big draw.

You know, he did not expect to instantly move out to Silicon Valley and land a big tech job and make a lot of money.

I think when you tell every young person for several years, computer science is the place to be, they start to believe that.

And then all of a sudden, everybody has a computer science degree.

So it's very difficult to feel like you're competing against this mass quantity of people and also feel like you don't have a way to make yourself stand out.

At least for the moment, he feels like too many kids bought the tech industry marketing and decided to major in computer science.

And his view is that the supply of student or recent grad programmers is now exceeding industry demand.

Nathan says he's very concerned about it.

I mean—

The fact that entry-level and junior-level positions are effectively being eliminated because companies are deciding that AI can do that work instead, that boggles my mind because how are you going to have senior developers if you get rid of all the junior developers?

His view is that AI is going to increasingly be used to code and displace entry-level software engineers and junior programmers.

And it wasn't just the money.

He wanted to be a builder, which is what the tech industry wants.

And he was very wistful that now the AIs are going to be the creators and humans are just going to be essentially the handmaidens that steer AI coding and then check whether the AI code that was produced is correct.

And, you know, that's like training a whole generation of kids to be chefs to cook from scratch and then saying to them, okay, you're going to just be in charge of cake mixes from now on.

You know, he is really interested in being a designer.