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Natasha Singer

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The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It's now a core science course.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

They got money and they started programs to train thousands of more teachers to teach computer science.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Wow.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And they launched new curriculums in schools.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Wow.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

You see, for example, in 2016, the College Board launched a new advanced placement course that was funded by the National Science Foundation, and it was called Computer Science Principles.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It was made to broaden the audience of kids who could participate in computer science.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And it has been wildly successful in terms of getting a huge number of kids to take this introductory on-ramp to computer science and just get a taste of what it means.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I think both the massive marketing and the increased availability of computer science in high schools helped spur a massive influx of kids to get into computer science.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And we can see from the data, last year the number of undergraduates majoring in computer science in the United States topped 170,000 students.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And that is essentially triple the number of students majoring in computer science since 2012.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

It worked.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

I mean, getting more kids to care about this and be interested in this, want to major in it, consider careers in this, really, really worked.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And for certain kids who followed the pipeline through AP Computer Science and graduated from some of the elite schools that tech companies like to hire from, they did end up with these golden ticket jobs, doing interesting work on high-profile software and making a lot of money, much more than

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

humanities majors who are starting out with hourly jobs.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

So there's a confluence of factors.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

First of all, it turns out that some of the same big tech companies who pushed schools to teach computer science and told kids coding was magic are very picky about who they hire.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

And many of the young students who studied programming or software development really had no shot working at big tech firms.

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Why not?

The Daily
Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

Because the hiring process at some companies has long skewed to kids who are already advantaged to begin with.