Nate Rott

So it depends. In some cases, depending on what they rule, you could. I don't want to get too far down the technical wonky path of environmental law because I don't think anyone wants to go down that path. But if a species is listed as threatened, there's more wiggle room. There can be carve-outs and protections to accommodate for the people that are going to have to interact with that animal.

So it depends. In some cases, depending on what they rule, you could. I don't want to get too far down the technical wonky path of environmental law because I don't think anyone wants to go down that path. But if a species is listed as threatened, there's more wiggle room. There can be carve-outs and protections to accommodate for the people that are going to have to interact with that animal.

They could say, like, it's not illegal to raise monarchs in captivity or for somebody to touch one. They could exempt those kinds of activities. And Emma thinks that they honestly should.

They could say, like, it's not illegal to raise monarchs in captivity or for somebody to touch one. They could exempt those kinds of activities. And Emma thinks that they honestly should.

They could say, like, it's not illegal to raise monarchs in captivity or for somebody to touch one. They could exempt those kinds of activities. And Emma thinks that they honestly should.

Totally. And presumably you'd want to give people some more flexibility around them because, you know, like we've been saying, the monarch's habitat is the better part of the North American continent. So at least for part of the year, right? Like when they're migrating through.

Totally. And presumably you'd want to give people some more flexibility around them because, you know, like we've been saying, the monarch's habitat is the better part of the North American continent. So at least for part of the year, right? Like when they're migrating through.

Totally. And presumably you'd want to give people some more flexibility around them because, you know, like we've been saying, the monarch's habitat is the better part of the North American continent. So at least for part of the year, right? Like when they're migrating through.

So I asked Emma the exact same thing.

So I asked Emma the exact same thing.

So I asked Emma the exact same thing.

And that's because there are so many variations of what they could decide. And nobody wants to see any of the conservation work that's already going on to be disrupted. So like right now, there are volunteer networks, insect enthusiasts, conservation groups, states, tribes, agencies working to help monarchs. Here's Bridget Rollins, a staff attorney at the National Agricultural Law Center.

And that's because there are so many variations of what they could decide. And nobody wants to see any of the conservation work that's already going on to be disrupted. So like right now, there are volunteer networks, insect enthusiasts, conservation groups, states, tribes, agencies working to help monarchs. Here's Bridget Rollins, a staff attorney at the National Agricultural Law Center.

And that's because there are so many variations of what they could decide. And nobody wants to see any of the conservation work that's already going on to be disrupted. So like right now, there are volunteer networks, insect enthusiasts, conservation groups, states, tribes, agencies working to help monarchs. Here's Bridget Rollins, a staff attorney at the National Agricultural Law Center.

And remember, this is a species that migrates through nearly every state in a country where most of the land is privately owned.

And remember, this is a species that migrates through nearly every state in a country where most of the land is privately owned.

And remember, this is a species that migrates through nearly every state in a country where most of the land is privately owned.

Bingo. And Bridget says farmers she's talked to are really concerned that if the monarch butterfly gets listed, it could limit their use of pesticides. Remember, that's one of the biggest drivers of the species and really all insects declines. And it could limit where they plow and plant crops.

Bingo. And Bridget says farmers she's talked to are really concerned that if the monarch butterfly gets listed, it could limit their use of pesticides. Remember, that's one of the biggest drivers of the species and really all insects declines. And it could limit where they plow and plant crops.

Bingo. And Bridget says farmers she's talked to are really concerned that if the monarch butterfly gets listed, it could limit their use of pesticides. Remember, that's one of the biggest drivers of the species and really all insects declines. And it could limit where they plow and plant crops.