Nate Rott

But again, you know, it's really important to remind listeners that this is just a proposed ruling, right? So regardless of whether the Fish and Wildlife Service decide to list it as threatened or endangered, or maybe they don't list it at all, there is going to be an opportunity for public comment, for reviews.

But again, you know, it's really important to remind listeners that this is just a proposed ruling, right? So regardless of whether the Fish and Wildlife Service decide to list it as threatened or endangered, or maybe they don't list it at all, there is going to be an opportunity for public comment, for reviews.

But again, you know, it's really important to remind listeners that this is just a proposed ruling, right? So regardless of whether the Fish and Wildlife Service decide to list it as threatened or endangered, or maybe they don't list it at all, there is going to be an opportunity for public comment, for reviews.

And most of this, remember, is going to take place under a new presidential administration.

And most of this, remember, is going to take place under a new presidential administration.

And most of this, remember, is going to take place under a new presidential administration.

So, yeah, I asked Bridget that when I talked to her before the election. And she said what I think everyone would say, which is that we don't really know, like we don't know what the Trump administration is going to do on so many fronts. But she did say we can look to his first term for clues.

So, yeah, I asked Bridget that when I talked to her before the election. And she said what I think everyone would say, which is that we don't really know, like we don't know what the Trump administration is going to do on so many fronts. But she did say we can look to his first term for clues.

So, yeah, I asked Bridget that when I talked to her before the election. And she said what I think everyone would say, which is that we don't really know, like we don't know what the Trump administration is going to do on so many fronts. But she did say we can look to his first term for clues.

And so what she's referring to there are these rules that the Trump administration passed making it easier, you know, for example, to remove a species from the endangered species list, to weaken protections for threatened species, to make it harder to consider climate change when making decisions, and allowing agencies to consider economic losses to an industry like farming or logging when they're trying to decide if a species deserves protection.

And so what she's referring to there are these rules that the Trump administration passed making it easier, you know, for example, to remove a species from the endangered species list, to weaken protections for threatened species, to make it harder to consider climate change when making decisions, and allowing agencies to consider economic losses to an industry like farming or logging when they're trying to decide if a species deserves protection.

And so what she's referring to there are these rules that the Trump administration passed making it easier, you know, for example, to remove a species from the endangered species list, to weaken protections for threatened species, to make it harder to consider climate change when making decisions, and allowing agencies to consider economic losses to an industry like farming or logging when they're trying to decide if a species deserves protection.

Right. But one of the things that really stood out to me while I was talking to people about this, regardless of what happens, you know, this is kind of a groundbreaking rulemaking. There's not a lot of species that get proposed for listing that exist in nearly every U.S. state. So Emma says this is kind of like a test.

Right. But one of the things that really stood out to me while I was talking to people about this, regardless of what happens, you know, this is kind of a groundbreaking rulemaking. There's not a lot of species that get proposed for listing that exist in nearly every U.S. state. So Emma says this is kind of like a test.

Right. But one of the things that really stood out to me while I was talking to people about this, regardless of what happens, you know, this is kind of a groundbreaking rulemaking. There's not a lot of species that get proposed for listing that exist in nearly every U.S. state. So Emma says this is kind of like a test.

One of the monarch scientists I talked to was a plant and insect ecologist at the University of Nevada, Reno. His name is Matt Forrester. And he says we as a society really need to figure out how to do this large-scale, large-landscape conservation.

One of the monarch scientists I talked to was a plant and insect ecologist at the University of Nevada, Reno. His name is Matt Forrester. And he says we as a society really need to figure out how to do this large-scale, large-landscape conservation.

One of the monarch scientists I talked to was a plant and insect ecologist at the University of Nevada, Reno. His name is Matt Forrester. And he says we as a society really need to figure out how to do this large-scale, large-landscape conservation.

Me too. I will be reading with great interest and earnest.

Me too. I will be reading with great interest and earnest.