Nathalie Cabrol

So we will learn something about this.

So the bias is right there.

The nature of life is different.

If really life is the best way the universe has to fight entropy, there is no bias there because physics is the same all across the universe.

At least the universe we know, there might be other universes, but the one we know works with the same physics.

We have another problem.

We don't know what life is.

We don't know what intelligence is, and we don't know what consciousness is, but we are trying to tackle the big question.

No.

I think that we have to be honest, and as a scientist, and I'm going to step back and talk about intelligence.

For me, a bacteria that has survived, like cyanobacteria,

that has survived just like us, four billion years in one incarnation or another, and actually they are very similar to the one that they were 3.5 billion years ago, it has some intelligence about its environment.

So for complexity, it might be

that we need to take the world literally, which is an assemblage or additional capacity to gather, collect, store information.

Maybe this is something like that, or actually use that information to do something with it.

But I do completely agree with you when you talk about flavor of ice cream.

I think this is exactly it.

And

I have a basic education about what physics is doing right now.

And I'm looking at quantum physics and what it says about the universe and about the connection about an atom here and an atom here, a photon here and a photon there.