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Lex Fridman Podcast

#348 – Nathalie Cabrol: Search for Alien Life

19 Dec 2022

2h 12m duration
20693 words
3 speakers
19 Dec 2022
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Nathalie Cabrol is an astrobiologist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - True Classic Tees: https://trueclassictees.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get free trial - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil EPISODE LINKS: Nathalie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/shasta721 SETI's Website: https://seti.org In Her Orbit (article): https://nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/22/magazine/voyages-nathalie-cabrol-searching-mars-life-on-earth.html PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:47) - Working in extreme environments (11:26) - Water and life on Mars (19:31) - Origin of life (37:00) - Complexity (40:37) - AI (49:23) - Extinction (57:06) - Fermi Paradox (1:10:48) - SETI research (1:13:39) - Diving in volcanic lakes (1:32:57) - Surviving an earthquake on a volcano (1:43:37) - Resilience of life (1:51:31) - Life below the surface of Mars (2:00:26) - Depression (2:04:08) - Mortality

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 9.64 Lex Fridman

The following is a conversation with Natalie Cabral, an astrobiologist and scientist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe.

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Chapter 2: What extreme environments does Nathalie Cabrol study?

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She explores some of the harshest places on Earth, including freediving and volcanic lakes, all in the pursuit of understanding living organisms beyond Earth.

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Chapter 3: How does water relate to the search for life on Mars?

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For this, she holds the woman's world record for diving at altitude, both scuba and freediving.

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Chapter 4: What insights can we gain about the origin of life?

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She's amazing. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor.

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Chapter 5: How does artificial intelligence intersect with astrobiology?

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Check them out in the description.

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Chapter 6: What is the Fermi Paradox and its implications?

34.201 - 51.264 Lex Fridman

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Chapter 7: What role does resilience play in the survival of life?

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I hate those. I try to make these interesting, but if you skip them, if you must, please still check out the sponsors.

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Chapter 8: How do volcanic lakes serve as analogs for Martian conditions?

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I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. This show is brought to you by True Classic Tees. High quality, soft, slim fitted t-shirts for men. I happen to be wearing one now. In fact, I'm wearing one every single day unless I'm wearing a suit or a dress shirt. That's the go-to comfortable programming, coding outfit if I want to do work. For prolonged periods of time, that's what I'm wearing.

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Is there anything better than a great black t-shirt? I'm not sure if there is. And now I'm reading through the T-shirt Wikipedia, which, again, is amazing that there's a Wikipedia article on all the basic objects and things and concepts in this world.

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So yeah, there's an interesting history based on the garments in the 19th century, but now there's a big picture of Marlon Brando wearing a T-shirt. In the movie A Streetcar Named Desire, I guess there is a phase shift at some point where people started wearing them. By the Great Depression, that t-shirt was often the default garment to be worn when doing farm or ranch chores.

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Of course, it's the cowboy thing. So first you start at the farm or the ranch, and then that takes over because that's where all the cool people are. And they define the fashion of the rugged American individual. And then it looks like in 1960s, printed t-shirts gained popularity for self-expression as well as for advertisement protests and souvenirs.

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Of course, in the 60s, that's when people started getting creative. It's not enough to have a plain t-shirt like I have on now. Anyway, go to trueclassic.com and enter code Lex to get 25% off. This show is also brought to you by Shopify, a platform designed for anyone to sell anywhere. The great looking online store that brings your ideas to life and tools to manage day-to-day operation.

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And I will likely be using it, or I should really use it, when I finally get my lazy butt to start doing merch. It's something that a bunch of people ask for, and I do myself enjoy wearing t-shirts for things that I'm a fan of. And then when people notice, it's kind of like a nod of acceptance to each other. I was just wearing a Metallica t-shirt yesterday. Which one was it?

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I think it was Master of Puppets. and I used to have that T-shirt many years ago, and it got so worn out because I would wear it everywhere, and it just got worn out. And I just saw it. I was somewhere. I think I was in Boston. It was the souvenir shop, and I saw that same shirt, but it was all crisp and nice, and I had to have it.

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But obviously Metallica is a giant band, but I think this applies to even small things like podcasts and so on. I'm just a huge fan of podcasts, a huge fan of a lot of things, like audiobooks. I wish there was more merch for individual audiobooks. Maybe that's what I'll do. I'll do merch for books I love. Books on tape, but it'll be books on shirt. Anyway, lots of ideas.

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If you have ideas and you want to launch a store, you can go to Shopify. Get a free trial and full access to Shopify's entire suite of features when you sign up at shopify.com slash Lex. That's all lower case. This episode is also brought to you by BetterHelp, spelled H-E-L-P, help. They figure out what you need to match with a professional licensed therapist in under 48 hours.

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