Nathalie Cabrol

But the thing, I will stop surfing that wave when it comes back to bite an entire scientific discipline.

For now, the past 60 years.

We were not able to raise money from the government, no grants.

It's a discipline that has no postdoc or very little postdoc just because there is a fear of that folklore on the political arena.

People don't want to be associated with that because they confuse the two.

So I stopped...

And as the director of the Carl Sagan Center, I am just very happy to see now that there is a course correction in the government seeking scientific investigators for this kind of issues.

And hopefully that will right the ship.

I love it.

It didn't come from us, and we paid the price.

I think we do that pretty well.

SETI does much better, but there's other places in science where- The search for life is a fairly easy place to draw the wonder of people.

Because it's a profound question that pretty much everybody has.

We do have more public presentation at the Institute than peer-reviewed articles.

And believe me, we have lots.

of peer-reviewed articles.

So our scientists are out there and they are sharing the wonder of discoveries.

And it's so easy these days.

I mean, there is not one day.

Tell me about writing a book right now about the search for life in the universe.