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Also, Jared, I have to ask, because again, so many founders get stuck in this trap.

Did you take, I mean, I care about founders building personal wealth, building companies they love with customers who they love backing.

If you don't take money in the early rounds, you end up really stuck with no way to actually personally get liquidity.

Did you take any secondary early on or were you sort of screwed at the end?

So Jared, just to sum that up, one word answer if you can.

Many people would look at Box and say Jared was a co-founder.

He grew it to hundreds of millions of revenue.

They raised 380 million total.

Surely he made more than 10, 20, 30 million bucks on this company, but it sounds like that was not the case.

Is that accurate?

There were many years where you guys, from a net income perspective, lost more than $30 million.

Did you ever consider shutting the company down?

Jared, there's a lot of folks saying, look, software, anyone can build it now.

It's hard to compete.