Nathan Radke

Yeah, I mean, think about what's in there.

We've got blue whales, the largest animal to ever exist.

We've got giant squid and the colossal squid.

which are even more impressive.

We've got giant crab sweaters.

It's a scene down there.

It's just an absolute scene.

But here's the important difference.

None of those things are monsters.

They fit into the animal world in a way that doesn't challenge our notion of what's possible.

They're weird, but science can explain their existence.

They're not supernatural.

That's the distinction.

When we start to get into mythology and away from biology, that's when we're looking at things that are outside of science.

Because again, every time we send some kind of deep diving submersible into the ocean, we're going to come across some weird new animal, but it's going to fit into the world of biology.

Whereas the Leviathan in these memes that we talked about in the first half, or just our sea monsters in general, they're rooted firmly in mythology rather than biology.

And I think there's a reason why this sort of story gets traction these days and why it's always gotten traction.

But maybe like what's happening to us now, I'm not surprised that these sea monsters are rearing their heads.

Well, my co-host, Dr. Kuhnlin, and I have been looking at conspiracy theories for over a decade now and done a lot of field work and infiltrated a lot of cults and interviewed tons of people.

And there's one thing that's become exceedingly clear and that there's a really strong relationship between conspiracism, this idea that conspiracies are in charge of everything, and trauma.