Navied Mahdavian

And so hearing the process, like, how did you settle on these are the...

Yeah, that's what makes it so powerful.

It's that distillation of what are complex emotions, but into just a few lines.

And we're immediately able to recognize those emotions

through those lines.

Do you know if that transcends cultures?

Well, I mean, it's the phenomenon of face pareidolia, where we see faces in inanimate objects.

Pareidolia.

I should know this.

I should know the Greek for it.

But yeah, I mean, it's...

I don't know the, I mean, there's something evolutionary about it, but that we see faces in like sort of happy, like the front of a car, we'll see a smiley face or whatever.

We see faces everywhere.

And so I think that the, the ability to recognize a smiley face as a smiley face is whatever that.

It's hardwired.

Yeah.

Which also, I mean, I thought about this after having...

my daughter where the ways that we, even within like American culture, the way that we express happiness or sadness, the sort of smiley face, the up and the down, like we don't actually frown, but we recognize the frown as being sad.

But then I saw with my daughter when she was a toddler, she actually would frown and she actually would.

So there was something that was much more representative of,