Neal Brennan

And then, uh, and then around 13, we moved and I got an upgrade, um, out of the hostel into my own room.

Um, like the, like the King of England.

Um, so, so yeah, so, so it was, it was like, I guess it was what you call hard scrabble.

I'm kind of, thanks to the ayahuasca and the DMT and the MDMA, I kind of don't think about it as much anymore or like,

feel a ton of negative feeling around it.

Uh, it almost feels like a hazy memory.

That's the other advantage or one of the advantages of age is like you, you forget everything, you forget everything.

Um, so, and now I've stopped holding my mother.

My standard now for parenting is it is, uh, was it, did they make an effort and is it better than their parents?

And my parents, for all of the, you know, not grief I've given them, but all of the sort of taking the task in these specials, you know, they were better than their parents.

Yeah.

That's something.

And it was hard.

Yeah.

They made it hard on themselves.

And also Catholicism made it hard on them.

Right.

Where, like, they couldn't – I don't think my dad wanted kids at all.

I grew up in Chicago, grew up in Wilmette.

Yeah.