Neil Atkinson

Both very much at either end of the career.

Both

arguably in one sense slightly different in that Bowen I think through the last two three seasons has been very output he kicks it in the goal Minter has looked like a lot of potential but if anything the output's actually diminished recently Andy I'm struck by

The links to Bowen are very opportunistic.

I think he'd want weighing in.

I'm going to presume he's got some sort of release clause or that West Ham would be aware of the fact that they need to take a reduced fee.

My biggest issue when I look at Bowen is I actually don't particularly see a lad now who looks to me like a wide forward anymore.

Bowen is interesting as a player, you know, and experience showing real leadership at West Ham even though it's gone badly wrong.

I don't think anyone particularly feels as though Bowen's been at the centre of that.

It feels as though that's very much come from above him with a couple of terrible managerial appointments.

They weren't protesting against him at the end of the match.

Not protesting against Jadon Bowen at the end of the match.

Also feels like he's done it when there's been pressure on.

But there's just an issue, Carl, isn't there, by buying 30-year-olds and not letting them slow down and putting them on big money.

As I say, I'm fine with the idea that Jarrett Bowen playing centre-forward.

You know, I just really struggle to see Jarrett Bowen playing wide.

They played him more centrally than you think.

I think he'd be a really interesting buy in terms of if you did two and then you did someone like him, because I think you wonder whether or not he could also therefore help you with alternating with Viet.

So you've got the idea that he can play off the front, he can also then go into... I think one of these lads needs to be able to do a bit of...

something plus if you see what I mean so I really like him but I think it's worth saying a lot of when you've seen him and you've gone Christ he's got something about him he's actually been playing through the middle but I really like him I think he looks like but yeah the same thing applies in terms of miles on the clock in terms of how few games as it goes with Diamande you know but I think it's a good point and you know if