Neil Druckmann

One other fun note here, you know, when we made the game, I wanted there to be a band. But, you know, when you make a game, every character you make, you have to model them. You have to, like, model them from scratch. So it's actually really expensive to add new characters. And we're just running out of time, so we couldn't make a band playing this music.

One other fun note here, you know, when we made the game, I wanted there to be a band. But, you know, when you make a game, every character you make, you have to model them. You have to, like, model them from scratch. So it's actually really expensive to add new characters. And we're just running out of time, so we couldn't make a band playing this music.

So we just had a record player that's playing on some speakers, some AV system. Here we brought Crooked Still, are the ones playing there, and they're sitting there with Gustavo Santolalla, our composer.

So we just had a record player that's playing on some speakers, some AV system. Here we brought Crooked Still, are the ones playing there, and they're sitting there with Gustavo Santolalla, our composer.

Yeah, there's a lot of really beautiful stuff that's happening in that moment, which is like Ellie's insecurity. Ellie's feeling like she's not worthy of someone like Dina. And then, you know, there's Joel who's hanging... in the sidelines. He's trying his best to give Ellie the space that she's wanted, but he's controlling her from afar.

Yeah, there's a lot of really beautiful stuff that's happening in that moment, which is like Ellie's insecurity. Ellie's feeling like she's not worthy of someone like Dina. And then, you know, there's Joel who's hanging... in the sidelines. He's trying his best to give Ellie the space that she's wanted, but he's controlling her from afar.

And we get to hear that from some of the conversations she's having with Jesse. And then he can't help himself. When the Seth moment happens, the dad part of his brain just completely takes over and he's gotta act. And he acts the way that he knows how he's learned in this world, which is violently. Get the hell out of here.

And we get to hear that from some of the conversations she's having with Jesse. And then he can't help himself. When the Seth moment happens, the dad part of his brain just completely takes over and he's gotta act. And he acts the way that he knows how he's learned in this world, which is violently. Get the hell out of here.

Take a walk. Come on. Let's go.

Take a walk. Come on. Let's go.

What is wrong with you? I don't need your fucking help.

What is wrong with you? I don't need your fucking help.

We didn't talk about the conversation Ellie's having with Tommy, and clearly people are aware there's something going on between Ellie and Joel, but it's like under the surface, and now it's explicit. And now I think the humiliation is like, I've just made it worse.

We didn't talk about the conversation Ellie's having with Tommy, and clearly people are aware there's something going on between Ellie and Joel, but it's like under the surface, and now it's explicit. And now I think the humiliation is like, I've just made it worse.

Okay, so one-on-one. I've done that before. If you'd rather let the men handle it.

Okay, so one-on-one. I've done that before. If you'd rather let the men handle it.

Run at me, fucker. Run at me!

Run at me, fucker. Run at me!

Yes. And then they're quiet. They run away, which is like, they've never seen anything like this before.

Yes. And then they're quiet. They run away, which is like, they've never seen anything like this before.