Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And in February, we'll invite you to the lab.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
Yes.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And just take a step back over the 10 years, the Mediated Matter Group, which was my group at MIT, has sort of dedicated itself to, biobased design would be a suitcase word, but sort of thinking about that synergy between nature and culture, biology and technology.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And we attempted to build a suite of embodiments, let's say, that they ended up in amazing museums and amazing shows.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And we wrote patents and papers on them, but they were still N of ones.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
Again, the challenge, as you say, was to grow them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And we classified them into fibers, cellular solids, biopolymers, pigments.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And in each of the examples, although the material was different, sometimes we used fibers, sometimes we used
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
silk with silkworms and honey with bees or comb as the structural material.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
With vespers, we used synthetically engineered bacteria to produce pigments.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
Although the materials were different and the hero organisms were different, the philosophy was always the same.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
The approach was really an approach of computational templating.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
That templating allowed us to create templates for the natural environment where nature and technology could
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
Duet, could dance together to create these products.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
So just a few examples with a silk pavilion.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
We've had a couple of pavilions made of silk.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And the second one, which was the bigger one, which ended up at the Museum of Modern Art with my friend and incredible mentor, Paolo Antonelli.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
That pavilion was six meters tall and it was produced by silkworms.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
And there we had different types of templates.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#394 โ Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
There were physical templates that were basically just these water-soluble meshes upon which the silkworms were spinning.