#394 – Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature
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The following is a conversation with Neri Oxman, an engineer, scientist, designer, architect, artist, and one of the kindest, most thoughtful, and brilliant human beings I've ever gotten to know. For a long time, she led the mediated matter group at MIT that did research and built incredible stuff at the intersection of computational design, digital fabrication, material science, and synthetic biology, doing so at all scales, from the micro scale to the building scale. Now she's continuing this work at a very new company for now called Oxman, looking to revolutionize how humans design and build products working with nature, not against it. On a personal note, let me say that Neri has for a long time been a friend and someone who in my darker moments has always been there with a note of kindness and support.
I am forever grateful to her. She's a brilliant and a beautiful human being. Oh, and she also brought me a present, War and Peace by Tolstoy and Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. It doesn't get better than that. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast. We got Babbel for learning new languages, BetterHelp for mental health, House of Macadamias for delicious snacks, InsideTracker for biological data, and ExpressVPN for your security and privacy on the internet. Choose wisely, my friends. Also, if you want to work with our amazing team, we're always hiring. Go to lexfriedman.com slash hiring. And now onto the full ad reads.
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And obviously every single language approaches that problem as a solution to that problem, to that puzzle differently. And so one of the joys and one of the challenges of learning a new language is figuring out how that puzzle is solved. Anyway, get 55% off your Babbel subscription at babbel.com slash lexpod, spelled B-A-B-B-E-L dot com slash lexpod. Rules and restrictions apply. This episode is also brought to you by BetterHelp, spelled H-E-L-P, help. As I've talked to extensively, even recently, to Andrew Huberman and many others, talk therapy is a really, really powerful thing for exploring the depths of the human mind, the Jungian shadow, the good and the bad that lurks there in that shadow that...
you have not really shined a light on, that you've not brought to the surface, that not sat there face to face with the simplicity of trauma or just memories, experiences that you journeyed through earlier in life and just, Sitting there and allowing yourself to face them is somehow a really powerful way to bring inner peace. So I'm a big supporter of talk therapy, of talking, of deep conversation in general. And I think talk therapy is like one of the ways you can force yourself to have deep, personal, intimate conversation. Podcasting, frankly, when done really well, is that also. I do recommend that even if you don't have a podcast, you grab yourself a mic and you sit across the table from somebody who means a lot to you and you have that conversation.
Even if the mic is not recording, there's something about the microphone that forces you to really step up. This is it. This is the moment where it all has to be on the table. Anyway, hopefully good talk therapy is like that.
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