Neri Oxman

I do.

And I think of nature in that way, in general, in the context of design specifically.

I think of nature as everything that isn't

and triple mass, everything that is not produced by humankind.

The birds and the rocks and everything in between, fungi, elephants, whales.

Yes, and we're looking for it.

I think that from, let's say, from the beginning of mankind, going back 200,000 years, the products that we have designed have separated us from nature.

And it's ironic that the things that we designed and produced as humankind, those are exactly the things that separated us.

Before that, we were totally and completely connected.

And I want to return to that world.

Yes, yes.

I absolutely believe that there is so much to nature that we still have not leveraged and we still have not understood and we still haven't.

And so much of our work is design, but a lot of it is science, is unveiling and learning.

and finding new truths about the natural world that we were not aware of before.

Everybody talks about intelligence these days, but I like to think that nature has a kind of wisdom that exists beyond intelligence or above intelligence.

And it's that wisdom that we're trying to tap into through technology.

If you think about humans versus nature, at least in the realm, at least in the context of definition of nature is everything but anthropomass.

And I'm using Ron Milo, who is an incredible philosopher.

professor from the Weizmann Institute, who came up with this definition of anthropomass in 2020, when he identified that 2020 was the crossover year when anthropomass exceeded biomass on the planet.

So all of the design goods that we have created and brought into the world now outweigh all of the biomass.