Niall Donald

So he was, and I mean, however, I don't know what he was doing as a trade envoy because he's notoriously the most uncharming and unpersonable individual you could come across.

But nonetheless, he obviously had access to this information.

And in one occasion, he's accused in

Afghanistan in the Helmet Province, which was one of the areas that the British and the Americans fought particularly hard for after in Afghanistan.

And obviously, as part after the Americans and the British forces were in there, they attempted to rebuild Afghanistan at times.

And he was sending Jeffrey Epstein in.

detailed information about some of the government contracts.

I mean, you could say, as you said, it is difficult to prove because I think you have to show intent.

But I mean, it's amazing.

And it's amazing that he would just email that stuff to that man.

This is post his conviction and everything.

Well, it's also the shocking greed of Andrew and his wife.

I mean, they seemed to be desperate for money.

I don't know how they were desperate for money.

I mean, they weren't desperate for money that they couldn't afford, you know, a bag of chips and a battered sausage, but they seem to have been desperate to grab money off people.

Maybe it's,

You know, and Epstein obviously was bankrolling them effectively.

He was the... Well, I mean, it's very hard to know what was in it for everybody.

No, I know.

That is the great mystery of the Epstein thing.