Niall Donald

sense of it and it is controversial like to see him there it is controversial there's no doubt and when you're in there in a crowd and there's a mixed crowd there's people that might go to every play in Dublin and then there's people who I'd say would never have seen the inside of a theatre before and so there is a support for Gerry Hutch when he's on stage and that again gives you a little shock

But, you know, again, as a spectacle, it is, you know, powerful.

Now there is, we stripped, I've said, let's strip off the morality, but it has become, that has become the debate really, isn't it?

Yes, so I suppose to put it in...

The argument is, I don't, the election is certainly a part of it, but I think that's a lesser part.

What people are effectively saying is this turns Jerry Hutch into a hero and that Jerry Hutch is not a hero.

He's a really bad person.

And that, you know, by doing this, people, and going to it, you're, you know, you're effectively supporting badness.

Do you know what I mean?

And that's the basic argument is that, you know, people like Gerry Hood shouldn't be made into heroes.

Well, I totally do.

I mean,

Look, I suppose I actually had a bit of a row around the mind just speaking about the play last night.

And I was saying, well, you know, I mean, you watch Goodfellas and you love Goodfellas.

And they were saying, oh, no, that wasn't a real life.

And I said, well, 100% was a real life story.

They were saying, oh, that was ages ago anyway, because everybody was dead.

And I said, no, that was written...

less than a decade.

That was put on the screen less than a decade after the events that it's written about.