Niall Donald

It's not the consequence of poverty, though poverty plays a role.

The reason they do it is because it is, by its nature...

a glamorous life within that community and that would be the same.

That's the same, for example, in the US where there's very little in-depth crime reporting on the individuals involved, right?

So I remember there was a thing about The Wire and there was a reporter from Baltimore who worked for The Herald for a short while and he was saying, we don't write about any of the personalities involved of them.

We don't know their names or anything.

So it's not the press, but those people in Baltimore that are involved in crime, it's the glamour they have within their community that draws them to it.

And it doesn't matter whether it's reported in the press or not.

And the risk.

And the risk and the rewards.

But a lot of it is to be a big shot.

Yes.

So, I mean, I suppose if you were to look at Succession, the famous thing based on the Murdoch family.

I mean, people don't say that glamorizes, you know, corporate fraud or something.

So it's a type of thing.

So as I've, you know, I've actually said it before to you, like crime reporting in particular in maybe in the...

you know, in the bigger picture of crime reporting, it's about, it's a morality play, right?

That's why people engage with it.

That's why all media organisations now are doing more crime than ever before.

It's because people read about it because there is a moral aspect to it and they relate to it thinking, you know, what would I do if my wife was cheating?