Niall Donald

But Alan was telling me this, there was talk of these guards and then obviously there was...

You know, the crowd fleeing from the scene.

So it was all confusing.

But as you said, Ernie had taken a picture of the back of his camera.

People will know what the photographer's cameras look like.

And they have a little digital screen.

You don't see it in great detail.

But we knew this is a once in a lifetime photograph has been gotten.

Totally.

I mean, because it is complex.

I mean, normally the journalism likes to keep itself separate from the Garda investigations.

So Garda investigations go on and...

journalism reports on them.

But obviously then you're put in this compromising position because you have guys running out visibly with handguns in their hands and you know they're obviously then disappeared into the ether and you have, certainly you have to have a discussion about what is your civic responsibility in terms of do you help the guards, do you, you don't want these armed gunmen to run down the street and kill another few people.

So, it was a complex one and people were aware straight away that the guards are going to want these pictures and want to use it for their purposes.

And we also have our purposes, which is to tell what happened and to report on the news.

So, there was a conflict straight away.

Nobody could have guessed.

And of course, those rumours straight away went

went around, it was straight away focused on the Hutch gang.