Niall Donald

So if you look at Daniel, right?

So none of these guys really have, like none of these, you know, and others as well from that whole Kenyan organization have really taken this to trial when they've received this book of evidence looking at these messages.

Why have they not, Eamon?

That's a difficult question to ask because obviously they will...

They could say, well, that handle, how can you show that's me?

And they don't have to prove this, the guards now at this point, because these guys have pled guilty and they can list out in detail and it's accepted.

That's a fact.

The person has admitted to doing it.

What would be the difficulty and what are the circumstances that Daniel Killen might think, no, I'll take my chances on a trial?

It does.

And of course, I'm just interested in, is Daniel Kennan, because of luck, I really believe he's going to be extradited.

is he going to take his chances in a court because there's a lot to lose I mean that's what I'm trying to say really you know there's a big difference between getting 20 years and getting life if you take it to trial there is a risk that you get that life sentence particularly and all really

from as a layman's perspective all the state really have to do is prove he is Bond isn't it because you can see the murder plot happening in those messages and it'll be interesting to see what other circumstantial evidence they have like in terms of

No, but he was certainly in there.

He was back for the funeral of David Byrne.

He was in the country for the murder of Nettie Hutch, for sure.

And the other thing that could be interesting is their discussion of articles in the media, because, you know, they are discussing them.

And that, again, can connect a certain individual with a handle.

We didn't have to hear this because they don't have to prove the handle, but we did even hear a sense of them discussing articles, didn't we?

Yeah.