Niall Donald

I mean, the advantage of them is that they look like a

I suppose car fobs really that you use to turn on and off your alarm or your watch and they're obviously very hard to detect.

Yeah, so I mean, the fob phones, they have this chair, isn't it?

The boss chair.

I don't know if they have it in WeField, but they have it in some of the prisons where if you sit in it,

it'll set off a metal detector alarm and the small fob phones, because they're totally plastic, I don't think they were showing up.

The weapons as well that are coming in, obviously they're of a huge concern and they're being seized in general, I suppose, in the prisons as well, makeshift weapons.

Yeah, because of course prisons or guns have been smuggled in during the Troubles.

It did happen and obviously it allowed people to escape and cause total chaos.

So the guards are involved...

And if these seizures are made, are they leading to arrests and possible prosecutions?

Yes, people that are significant players.

So they feel that this is something that they can...

Okay, well, we'll come back to that then when you're in either case in a couple of years.

Brilliant.

Thanks, Ken.

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