Niall Donald

I mean, certainly his body was in parts, but that's, I suppose, certainly what guards believe.

Yeah, and of course, it's not known if the body parts were there when...

the search was first the search heard or were they deposited there in the aftermath.

Of course, that's just not known.

You know, some of the criticism of the guards has been very strong, but we haven't, there's been no report that we can look at and say what went right and what went wrong.

No.

Either way, my game certainly was, you know, it is believed, I think,

by all concerned, that he certainly was murdered.

Yeah, because it's a very complicated murder case.

Now, if you look at a lot of the murders that have been solved in recent times,

Even if you look at, for example, the Richard Satchwell case, ultimately even CCTV played a role in that because they checked that, you know, when he was leaving the house and when he wasn't.

But in the case of Mike Gain, it's in a very rural part of the country.

So there's not going to be CCTV around.

There obviously is that final image from when he's buying the phone credit, but there's nothing else.

There's not a lot of phone information because,

I don't... Mike Gaines' phone was found in his car, so they couldn't track him that way.

There's no witnesses.

I mean, it's in a very isolated part.

There's nobody walking by and seeing stuff.

And without then human witnesses, I suppose, people saying stuff, it becomes really, really complicated.