Niall Donald

God only knows what goes on in the real world at that level.

And this is a rare occasion when we have found it out.

But, you know, there must be so much more that we don't know.

It's a little bit of... Well, exactly.

Okay, so that's exactly where we're going to end it, right?

Because we're talking about private planes and, you know, billionaires and financiers.

And on the day we had that story up about Prince Andrew, we also had somebody at the absolute very end, other end of the spectrum.

It was a woman called Tina McDonagh who was convicted of, I suppose you'd have to describe it as...

you know, there really is the smallest level of criminality.

Now, I mean, one of the reasons, obviously, that it did become...

you know, people really paid attention to it because, of course, she is described, the court hears how she's a grandmother.

She's 35.

I mean, that's what it is.

Yeah.

She's quite like, she's, you know, she's sort of a baby face looking within reason for 35.

So, I mean, she is.

It is incredible.

Actually, I think then for Christy, the sprinter, you're an athletics fan.

I think he was

won a medal at the Olympics when he was 36 and he was a grandfather.