Niall Hatch

And wouldn't it be amazing if we had two species of bittern on this Dawn Chorus programme?

Does it?

I've heard them.

I'll do a very bad impression of it.

Rather than just that booming sound, that woo, that the Eurasian bittern has, the American bittern goes, goon, goon, goon, goon, goon.

Ken, you know, I've actually forgotten why I'm supposed to remember April 1st apart from your birthday.

Why is that?

Well, happy birthday on the April 1st.

It's fantastic, isn't it?

So they're naturalised in the wild.

They had a crossbreed at some stage by themselves.

And they have big fat back legs and muscles on them, which is what all that's eaten of the frog.

It's just the back legs.

Only once.

I really think maybe eating frogs is not a good thing to be doing from a point of view of conservation and wildlife.

I've gotten sense of the old age.

No, we don't.

We can live without eating frog's legs.

I mean, maybe long ago people were starving and they had to eat local foods and fine.

But in this day and age, you know.