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Mooney Goes Wild

April 1st No Fools Day For Salmon Of Knowledge

27 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What significant dates are important in the life cycle of salmon?

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This is Mooney Goes Wild on RTE Radio 1.

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15.37 - 35.024 Niall Hatch

You can visit the website anytime you like, rte.ie forward slash moody. Attention, please. Can I have your attention? Hello? Niall? Richard? Sinead, what are you doing in here? Anne Whelan is here. Richard Collins is here. Andy Lana and Niall Hatch. You can visit the website anytime you like, rte.ie forward slash moody. forward slash Mooney.

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35.044 - 48.64 Niall Hatch

You are indeed listening to Mooney Goes Wild on this Monday night. Ken Whelan is in with us. Last week, we celebrated Richard Collins' birthday. He was all of, I don't know, 29 or something, a lady's age. This week, Ken Whelan, it's not your birthday. No, it's not my birthday. Your birthday's on the 1st of April. That's right.

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48.98 - 54.727 Niall Hatch

But I'm told that when it comes to you, Ken, I've got to remember your birthday on the 1st of April and salmon.

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55.148 - 73.555 Ken Whelan

What do you think? It's really important. There's only two dates you have to remember if you want to know about salmon. Christmas Day and my birthday. Why? So Christmas Day is normally the peak of when the female salmon actually lay the eggs. And when the eggs sit in the gravel, they go through a very interesting stage where they have a little yolk sack. And it is a little yolk sack.

73.575 - 91.417 Ken Whelan

It's like a little chicken with the actual yolk of the chicken stuck on its tummy. And it feeds off this yolk sack until around the end of March. And conveniently, we normally assume it's the 1st of April is when the little creatures come out, sit on the rocks and start feeding. And my birthday is on the 1st of April. And is it always the same time every year? Not your birthday.

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No.

93.468 - 97.716 Ken Whelan

Well, obviously with climate change and so on, it changes. It's a period. But forget about climate change.

97.796 - 98.838 Niall Hatch

Is it always the same time?

Chapter 2: Why is Christmas Day crucial for salmon reproduction?

147.754 - 162.827 Ken Whelan

And that day was the day when those fish would move, even if there wasn't a lot of water. And sometimes because there was a barrier with them moving from the upper lake to the lower lake, they'd actually get marooned at the back of the barrier until there was a little bit of extra water. But they'd still be there knocking on the door.

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162.807 - 167.776 Richard Collins

On the 1st of May, regardless of whether it was a Sunday or a Monday or a Good Friday, any day. That's right.

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167.996 - 178.975 Ken Whelan

And it has shifted just slightly now over recent decades. But it is amazing that that sort of calendar, if you like, is followed. Is it shifted to be earlier?

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179.015 - 186.829 Andy Lana

Yes, it is. Is that a body clock thing or is it temperature or environment or whatever? How could it be synchronised if it's not a clock?

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186.849 - 204.077 Ken Whelan

Right. Yeah, well, I think, you know, it's a mixture. It's a mixture of them all. It's certainly it's the light, you know, it's the actual metabolism of the fish. It's the growth rate of the fish. You know, it's the temperature of the water and this incredible mix and how it hits the button every time is just extraordinary.

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And when they go out to sea, we know that they have to meet very special sort of plankton in order to be able to survive and move to Norway. So.

211.289 - 225.227 Andy Lana

Now, to what extent are they flocking at this stage? And will they stay flocking when they get into the sea? Flocking, Richard, is the term I should say. I keep on thinking birds, you know. I always think of fish in the same way as birds, but go on anyway.

225.247 - 245.699 Ken Whelan

Yeah, well, normally what happens is that people think when they see a little salmon at the end of its journey down the river, the little baby salmon, and they're jumping out of the water, that they're celebrating spring. In fact, they're in incredible discomfort. Because remember what they're doing. So they're sitting there in fresh water and they think they're a fresh water creature.

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And then their body changes. And their body changes so that the cells are doing something that's the opposite. So when they're in fresh water they're trying not to drown. They're pumping out fresh water all the time. Once they get into salt water, they're trying to retain the water as much as they can. And they suddenly get into a physiological state where they have to retain the water.

Chapter 3: How does climate change affect salmon hatching times?

273.328 - 282.741 Ken Whelan

And those shoals go down then and into the ocean. That's an interesting scientific question as to whether they stick in those shoals or not. The honest answer is at this stage we don't have enough information.

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282.721 - 289.371 Andy Lana

So they have a migration program. Oh, absolutely. And is that contained in every fish then that they all know where to go?

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289.411 - 309.279 Ken Whelan

Absolutely. And it is just extraordinary. We have identified now what we call the Smolt Highway. And that leads up to a place off the west coast of Norway called the Voring Plateau. And the energetics are amazing because these little fish are about 12 centimetres when they go out. They're going to be 55 to 6 centimetres when they come back. They ain't going to do much swimming.

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309.779 - 326.44 Ken Whelan

Energetically, they have to start growing the minute they hit the sea. So they have to be in a big moving current that's actually going to bring them towards where they want to go. Yet they have to change currents at some points and they're going in a direction as well as living in the current. It's just extraordinary. Same as your birds.

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327.381 - 329.704 Ken Whelan

You sit there and you just do not believe what you're seeing.

329.684 - 345.111 Richard Collins

And then they come back and find the right river to go into. Absolutely. I mean, they come back to the Irish coast, but if you came out of the Moai, you go back into the Moai. If you came out of the Shannon, you go back into the Shannon. They know which river to go back into. That's amazing altogether. Sure isn't one river the same as the next? What do you think?

345.091 - 364.078 Ken Whelan

Well, you know, we were talking on the previous programme about the smells and the Greenland shark and so on. At the end of the day, their ability to be able to use the magnetic fields, we think, when they're in the open ocean. But this ability to smell or taste what they're doing is amazing. So it's what I call the Swiss roll effect.

364.058 - 380.545 Ken Whelan

So when they're in fresh water, let's imagine you have a little salmon at the top of the Liffey here in Dublin. When that salmon gets uncomfortable and starts to move down, genetically, it imprints then the taste or smell of the spot it has been spawned. And as it comes down, it imprints then the other smells in sequence.

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And it unrolls the Swiss roll when it comes back into the estuary and follows that trail of smell the whole way back up to where it spawns.

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