Nick Bare

You're working on the business or on the project as opposed to in it.

That's rising, right?

It allows your subordinate leaders to lead and do their job.

It allows individuals and teams to have ownership over their work and their responsibilities because of trust, because of confidence and competency.

But when you have to dive, this is when you get into the weeds.

And as Craig Urschel says, staying too low, meaning diving in the weeds for too long, can cause you to lose perspective, big picture.

And while staying too high for too long can cause you to lose connection with your people.

This is a really tough balance.

And it just takes time and experience and repetition of what I've learned over time.

As a leader, whether you're leading your family, your marriage, your children, a business, a small team, whatever it is, whenever you are leading people, the balance between knowing when to rise and when to dive is absolutely essential and critical.

It will lead that unit to success, but it can also lead that unit to failure.

and create problems relationally, trust issues, stepping on people's toes, not empowering people, not allowing people to take risks and try and fail and then learn from those failures.

This one, like I said, it inspired this entire episode because this was something

really hard for me early on as a leader.

And it took a lot of just exposure and repetition and making all the mistakes.

There have been a lot of times where I have been too high for too long and I've lost connection with people.

And then I've gone too low for too long and I've stepped on people's toes and I've lost trust in people and I wasn't able to empower them and actually try and learn and fail.

And

in staying too low for too long, I lost big picture perspective.

You know, when you're in the weeds on certain things, like you're head down, you're focused.