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Nick Beeching

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Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

Yeah, my name is Nick Beeching and I'm an infectious disease consultant at the Royal Liverpool University Hospital.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And I also work as a senior lecturer at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

Well, first of all, you've got to have really good technically well-performing tests.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And we have those in the reference laboratory at Public Health England.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

They were together with colleagues in Germany and elsewhere.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

They're among the first in the world to develop a good reference test looking for the virus itself.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And that's PCR test.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

We have developing reference tests for antibodies, again, in a central laboratory, but they take a bit longer to be sure they work properly.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And those are the gold standard tests against which everything else is measured, including kits that are being produced to be nearer the patient.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

It's not just the test itself that matters.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

It's actually how you take the sample.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And there's quite a lot of things that affect that.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

But first of all, usually looking for the virus unless somebody's really ill on a ventilator, for example, you would take a swab from deep in the nose or right from the back of the throat.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And if that's not taken properly, then the test won't work.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So actually the sampling has to be done well.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And we usually combine samples from both the nose and the back of the throat.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And the other thing is when you take the test.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So people may not become positive the first week after they've been exposed.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And so it's also the timing of the test.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And all these things can affect the performance.

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