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Nick Beeching

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

The same with the blood.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

The antibodies take quite a long time to develop, sometimes up to four weeks or more after being infected.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So if you take the blood too early during the infection, you might not get a good result.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

Yeah, I tend not to look at the boxes.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

I'm a rather simple clinician.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So I think of it in terms of just sensitivity and specificity.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So a sensitive test means you don't miss anything.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

You pick up everything.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

You might pick up a bit too much.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And that's ideal where you're screening an infection.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

You know, if you're testing people who might have an infection, you want a test that doesn't miss any, even if you then have to confirm it with a better quality test afterwards.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

If you're looking to be absolutely sure about confirming that something has happened, then specificity is good.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

In other words, you want it to be really accurate.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So if I had a blood test for antibodies...

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

and it was positive, I want that to be absolutely sure that that meant I'd had the infection and not had something else.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

And antibody tests are a bit notorious for sometimes having cross reactions, especially early in the infection.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

In practice, it's good to combine both.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

But the most important thing for tests for the virus are essentially really good sensitivity.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

It depends where you are and how many tests you have.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - pneumonia, guidelines, preprints and testing

So in the ideal world, you would test lots of people at risk and you still test them for the virus and you might find it even if they have no symptoms at all.