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Nick Fountain

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Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

As much as they want to draw a clear line between legit loopholes and illegitimate tax shelters...

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Sometimes people fight back.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Especially people with a lot at stake.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Right.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

So that's where this story goes next.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

The tax lawyers and wealth managers and peddlers of these Maltese retirement accounts started to organize.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Now, in these tapes you're hearing, nobody's saying anything illegal.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

They're not a gotcha kind of recording.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

What's extraordinary about them is that we don't usually get to hear how the wealthiest Americans or the tax professionals who help them push to pay less in taxes.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

In these tapes, you hear how malleable that line between legal loophole and not-so-legal tax shelter really is.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

The government told us in a statement that Mr. Keyes never lobbied on behalf of the Malta pension issues.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

But in the recordings, you hear him walking people on the call through some of the possible strategies to defend the Malta loophole.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

He argues treaties are the domain of Congress, so the IRS overstepped.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Their changes don't count.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

They're also basically talking about delay tactics.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

For some things in tax, if you can make it past the statute of limitations, you can sleep easy.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

But in 2023, the IRS really goes on the offense about this.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

They propose a rule.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

We'll call it the come clean rule, which says if you or someone you advise stashed your appreciated assets into a Maltese account, you got to come tell us.

Planet Money
The leaked tapes that show how the rich avoid taxes

Come clean.