Nick Gillespie
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Feb 2025
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But there are more people now, and this continues to grow, you know, that are independent. And we can argue about whether or not there are real independents politically, but fewer and fewer people are willing to identify as Democratic or Republican in polls. And that's saying something. And it means that these organizations don't represent the large masses of people anymore.
And parties work better when they figure out, okay, where's the majority at? And how do we deal with that?
Let's go to a child-run factory in Bangladesh. Yeah.
Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you, John.
The Bulwark Daily · 'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral' · 27 Dec 2024
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Step up to hell. I want to say it's a good thing that I don't believe in hell. And I don't think anybody here does. I just want to point out, you know, what we just, what we've heard tonight is one of the weakest, most pathetic arguments I've ever heard. And I'm talking about your opening remarks, Matt, of course.
What I want to make the case for, you know, if you're talking about Trump and Harris and that's the limit of your horizon, hit the bar now, okay? Because you're already lost in a fog. What I want to make the case for is saying that you don't have... I want to rephrase the proposition. You don't have to be a partisan.
You don't have to pick a political party in order to make meaningful impact on social, political, and economic issues. Your right of exit from any given coalition is exactly the thing that helps keep that coalition or that group or that movement focused on what they're trying to achieve. And I want to talk about that in the context of Martin Luther King, Gloria Steinem, and Bob Dylan.
Forgive me, I'm a boomer. I have trilogies that speak to boomers. Martin Luther King Jr. was scrupulously nonpartisan.
in his political associations, because he knew the minute that he said, I'm a Republican, which would have made sense for a variety of reasons, or I'm a Democrat, which would have made sense for particular reasons, the civil rights movement and the cause that he cared about the most disappears. It becomes part of another special interest group.
Gloria Steinem, who helped create modern feminism, and I hope people here are feminists. Can we have it? Yeah. You know, it's a powerful movement.
She pissed that away, maybe standing up, when she wrote her one free grope op-ed in the New York Times, and she said, you know what, whatever Bill Clinton does, it's okay because it's more important that we back him rather than the other side, who was, what, Bob Dole? You know, around that time.
And it reduced feminism and the feminist movement to a mere special interest group among Democratic, you know, the Democratic Party. And you lose power that way because then you're suddenly your issue is not that important. And then, you know, there's Bob Dylan. How many of you like Bob Dylan? That's OK. Well, I was expecting a different crowd tonight. But, you know, here's the thing.
Bob Dylan is arguably the most significant, certainly the most significant artist of the past 70 years. One of the biggest figures in American culture was part of the civil rights movement. You know, was born again, Christian, et cetera. Does anybody know what his politics are? And there it is. He's still making a huge difference in our lives, continues to, without being a rank partisan.
Because what happens when you become a partisan is you have to sign on and shut up in order to push the other side in the direction that they want. We might ask, is the bulwark more powerful now that it is so anti-Trump that it's going to align itself with every Democratic cause that comes along? Or would it be better? And I guess you guys were Republicans, right?
So you could have stayed in the Republican Party and worked, you know, tried to work from within. I don't know. But you're not making your your influence does not grow when you join a side in partisan politics for the most part. Thanks. Tim Millick.
Well, this may you know, I don't know if this fits into the constraints of the topic or whatnot. But the fact of the matter is, is like, yeah, you can vote for whoever you want. If you decide to be if you pick a side and you become a tribalist, which seems to be the case of Republicans and Democrats now. That they are like, OK, I got to buy all in.
No, you can't brook the orthodoxy of the party, which is one of the reasons why Joe Biden was running, even though it was clear that he was past his ability to function. I mean, he is he I guess he's still the president. But it you know, if if we actually lived in a world where instead of picking sides and saying we've got to win the next election or else extinction.
there probably would have been a different Democratic candidate. And also after he was unmasked as unfit for office, there would have been some kind of Democratic primary or something like that. So to get back to this question of nobody saying like you shouldn't vote or I'm not saying you shouldn't vote. I love voting like Matt.
I have an unblemished record of never voting for anybody who wins at any level of any election. Going back to my third grade vice president, you know, election. But it doesn't mean you don't participate and you don't vote and you don't voice things.
But it's one of the reasons this election was so screwed up is precisely because people pick sides and were like, no matter what, I've got to beat Donald Trump. So I'm going to stick with Joe Biden no matter how long and how hard I have to drag him into the podium.
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