Nick Gillespie
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229 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Feb 2025
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And people at the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, and National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard said, hey, don't comply with this. So you're already at odds. Having said that, it is important. And this is where Trump won. And more important, like he gained in almost every possible demographic subgroup. So people are ready for a change. And that's the most important thing.
Yeah, we've only been married like less than six months. So, yeah.
Yes.
In any case, you know, so what we're at, we are at a place where we understand, you know, this is why the Republican Party and the Democratic parties don't make sense. Like, again, since the end of World War II, certainly the end of the Cold War, maybe even the beginning of the century, like... it's all kind of played out and it's not working that well.
Like we need to, maybe the house isn't a complete teardown, but we need to clean it up. We need to repaint it. We need to say, you know what, we're going to sublet that whole part of it. Like we don't need to be doing that. And that's really important and vital. And I agree with you in this sense of like saying, if it's adversarial, if everything becomes adversarial,
then what we we've this whole century we've been going between you know control whole or partial control of the white house and the house of representatives in the senate from republicans to democrats back and forth in a way that hasn't been seen in over a century and it's because we haven't figured out a new consensus that is actually that people can live with and so we just go from biden being insane in this direction now trump you know and we're not getting to a resolution
Well, I think let's – yeah, it is the opportunity that's here. And then the remedies that are being proffered are not great. What is interesting is to see – we're not even 100 days in, right, to Trump. It's like a month and change.
I am withering. Yeah, it's really, really hard to think back even six months to what was going on. But again, it's helpful and it's essential because, you know, when we look back on where we were, like we've gone through most of this stuff before and we figured out ways to kind of improve on the past or to, you know, be better at what we're doing. And I think we need to do that.
You know, right now, in a way, you know, Trump has the high ground for a little while. But this is also true of every president, you know, by the summer. you know, we'll know whether or not he is popular, like if his specific fixes are popular or not. I suspect that they will be less popular over time.
But again, some of them like, you know, let's you know, let's legalize drugs at the federal level and just stop worrying about a whole bunch of shit we've been worried about for 100 years. Let's come to you know, there is a broad recognition that the U.S. should not be the world's policeman.
Yeah, no, well, that's different.
Yeah, no, I mean, this is where it's confusing, you know, and we need to get to a place where the solutions that are being discussed are actually good and legitimate. And it'll be interesting to see if the Democrats, you know, like I'm... You know, very bothered by people being like, oh, my God, the Democrats have nobody. The Republicans will win every election for the next thousand years.
Yeah. Everybody has said that every, you know, when Bush was elected and then reelected and then when Obama.
Yeah. Yeah.
And he, but he was, you know, in a way he was right in the saying, you know, that liberal democracy is the way forward. And the one thing, you know, I mean, there's retreat now, kind of, kind of, but it's also true that like China is, you know, China is not democratic, but it's more capitalist than it was when he said that.
I totally agree with that. But all I'm saying in China is that people are getting richer around the globe. I mean, one of the most important and fascinating facts that nobody discusses, and I think this should be talked about much more, there is a global middle class. The majority of people on the planet are at the middle class or above level for the first time in human history.
There's a guy named Romi Karras at the Brookings Institution that's been writing about this for a decade. And most of it is happening in Asia and in Africa and South America. And so, we don't really care about that. But you know what happens when people get a little bit of extra money and then you say, oh, here, you've got more money in the bank, but you can't spend it the way you want to.
People are like, fuck you. And like- This is a good problem to have globally and things like that.
uh for things but nick uh i'm i'm cognizant of your time i really appreciate the conversation i i've enjoyed it so much thank you i appreciate it too and uh you know what i mean one of the things that you're doing which i think a lot of people who would identify themselves you know as not being a you know republic like a mega republican right like you are not freaking out on externally i am not
Well, I mean, yeah, but everybody is so oppositional that it's like you're either voting for Harris or you're voting for Trump. And if you're not totally on board, people don't want to talk to you. Right.
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