Nick Gillespie
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229 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Feb 2025
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I know. I agree. And, you know, and I'll say, you know, because you brought this up. You had a really good and powerful and instructive moment when you were raising questions about the lab leak theory on the, you know, on Stephen Colbert show.
And again, it's like what we found under Biden, and I suspect if you go back far enough, there was some of this under Trump and under Obama and Bush and back before the FCC, all of this stuff, but where the government was actively leaning on people to say, do not permit this discussion or tamp it down, etc., Have they ever not? Less now than ever.
And this is one of the things, to bring it back to Trump, he signed an executive order saying that nobody in his administration should be trying to shut down conversation on social media. Does he mean that?
Yeah. So what I will say, and again, this is, you know, I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for the libertarian candidate because, you know, why not? But Trump will be ineffective. He's not going to actually jail people.
Yeah. It's terrible. No, it's not all that matters, but it is bad and he should be called out for it. I mean, in a way, Trump, in a way, his whole career, his whole politics career is the triumph Of talkback, you know, of telling the system, go fuck yourself, because nobody wanted him. The Republicans didn't want him originally. Nobody wanted him.
So in a way, he personifies a world in which we are freer than ever to just say, fuck it, I'm doing whatever I want. Unless it's against him. Yeah, as president, it is an awful thing.
And when you look at governors, DeSantis did this, Greg Abbott in Texas did this too, where they started writing laws that were tailored to screw over social media companies they didn't like because they thought they were censoring conservative voices, which turned out not to be true.
Yeah. And you could argue they didn't have to maybe, but it's all bad. Like any, anytime the government, you know, you know, Congress shall make no law, you know, a bridging speech. That's it. Like, and that, that, that should be the case at the state level too. And all of that.
i don't necessarily know that that's what they're doing it feels awfully inefficient the way they're doing it but well and it's a it's a real mix of uh you know for me the biggest problems with trump as a figure were had to do with immigration policy and tariffs um and you know he's just categorically awful you would not a libertarian would not be protectionist in terms of you even made the point earlier in terms of cars
I mean, is there a sports league that got worse after blacks were allowed to play? No, and in every possible way, right? It's just like you were walling off a huge source of powerful possibilities.
Unfortunately, those policies never had any – they weren't reaching those people. I mean, that's –
Yeah. Well, I am very excited by the idea of having a government that has done an audit of its workforce and of its activities.
Yeah, no, well, actually there's more like that. And this is, I was excited the other day when there were a bunch of tweets saying that, oh, Doge has entered the Pentagon. And it's like, okay, yeah, this should be very interesting.
That's right. And, you know, a good example of this, an economist friend of mine wrote about how at the FDA they had cut, apparently they had like cut 200 regulators, like people who actually go through stuff to see whether or not it's...
And if you keep the regulations in place and cut the workforce that is going to see if they're complying, like you just make everything worse. And this is where I think the Trump administration, not across the board, but in certain circumstances may actually be a good thing. So- You take the FDA, they named a guy Marty Macri, who's a professor from Johns Hopkins, who's pretty smart.
He'll be reporting, I guess, ultimately to Robert F. Kennedy, which is a whole other weird bag of- Weird, right? I don't know. But if the FDA, and this is something coming out of a libertarian perspective and analysis, it costs way too much to bring new drugs to market. It takes too long and it costs too much. There are ways to bring more drugs to market without compromising safety.
And if the government would restructure the FDA and Macri has talked about this, RFK and the second, his deputy at Health and Human Services have talked about ways to do this. Like if they do that so that it doesn't take a couple billion dollars in 12 years to bring a new drug to market. That's a big win. And that is something that we could completely do. We could do it overnight.
perfection that anybody who's ever let out of prison cannot re you know recommit a crime or else we have to make the system utterly ridiculous it have no but you know and in and in its best iteration or its best kind of sense if doge is going to help us go through and just trim out like you know clean out the house there's just too much shit in the house
man i just don't have confidence yet i know and i i agree because of the question of um you know like are they doing it well i have been thinking about this you know like elon right is is bragging about how you know he's got like a bunch of pre-teen coders who are quants and they can go through spreadsheets and the stuff they're finding like you know they keep finding massive mistakes like where they were claiming a uh a contract they ended with ice
was at $8 billion and it was actually $8 million and things like that. I worry that people think because you can fucking do Excel, you suddenly have wisdom.
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