Nick Gillespie
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Feb 2025
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Then, you know, the financial crisis hits large, I would argue, is largely because of government actions or is heavily abetted by government actions.
This is, you know, public choice economics talks about how like we think people want to think of the government as acting somehow differently than the private sector, but it's oftentimes completely captured. by the interest that it's supposed to regulate, or it is also just trying to build its own empire. So it's going to try and regulate more and more stuff.
Not necessarily remove it completely, but minimize its attempt to rig the system in favor of particular outcomes, whether that's for the little guy or the big guy or whatever. And let the natural order.
Yeah, I don't. And I say this again, this is coming from my father was born in Hell's Kitchen in the 1920s. He did okay. I did much better than him. But what I'm getting at is the idea that I actually think that capitalism offers more opportunities specifically for people to rise up from the lower classes and the middle classes.
Yeah. Or like a super regulated market where you're only getting into schools because of what family you come from and all of this kind of stuff. Right.
Absolutely. No. And nothing is perfect, right? Nothing is perfect. But we came out of the financial crisis with, oh, now we know we're not going to do anything too big to fail, right?
and it's like in fact the financial industry uh the financial sector is more um you know is more concentrated than it ever was and everybody in it knows that like oh no we're too big to fail which also means we can around and find out how that's right just watch us it is a very tricky thing and once you start thinking like okay the government can control stuff and make good outcomes like it it does until you know you realize oh this was a big catastrophe
And I think with something like the COVID stuff, when we're talking about it, there's economic issues which are worth talking about. And I think the massive increasing and extending of unemployment benefits was really bad. And it's generated so much debt. That's not going away, even if the annual GDP growth is increasing and things like that.
There were so many interventions into the economy where if the government had done smaller targeted things for shorter times, I think we would be better off.
Well, this is not an extreme philosophy and it is not a fringe philosophy. It is most people- Although can be exploited as such by people. Oh yeah, totally. And it can be vilified wrongly and it can be taken in bizarre directions and stuff. But basically what you're talking about is you want to live in a world where you can figure out who you are and build the world that you want to live in.
And not to get too libertarian on this, it means that if you want to marry, if you're a man and you want to marry a man, anything that is among consenting adults is good. If you want to smoke weed rather than drink whiskey, you shouldn't go to prison for that. And it shouldn't be illegal to buy and sell this shit. And if you want to run a
If you want to run a business that does this versus that, like, you know, anything that's peaceful.
But that's part of what government is designed to do, right? I mean, I don't think that's a bug. I think that's a feature of government. And you would argue, and I understand this, capitalism's the feature is- That's what I'm saying. It is like, really, no, we need more girls in the shirt waist triangle factory.
So that is, you know, it's a fascinating kind of question. And I can't really speak for other libertarians. Sure. But I am, you know, what I liked about Trump winning. is that I think it put a cap on a broad series of developments and kind of policies and attitudes that had settled over the country, kind of like, you know, a DDT fog that wasn't going away.
Popping a wheelie on my banana seat and all this. And that had to do – there were certain things about wokeness and about kind of policing of speech in a public way. That was onerous, you know, and the only solution to that really is for people to say, like, you know what, I'm not going to allow you to call me a racist, you know, and I'm going to speak my mind. I'm going to be public about that.
No, no. I mean, people are now talking about the woke left is being replaced by the woke right. And I mean, the idea that policing language so that if you're in the presence of Trump or a Trump-tard and you call it the Gulf of Mexico, They will be like, you no longer exist to me or something. And like, this is not progress by any stretch.
Oh, it was great, though. And I like that. I mean, I think it's empowering even as it fractures us.
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I was early on in Twitter, or not that early on, but I remember when Bill Cosby, you know, he was coming back with like a Netflix special and a tour and stuff like that. And he had a Twitter feed, an official Twitter feed. And they would put out stuff saying like, you know, hey, you know, Dr. Cosby wore great sweaters on the Cosby show, you know, post your favorite sweater.
And everybody just like immediately went after him for all of the sexual assault and rape allegations. Yeah. And it's like, that's a world I want to live in, where the big people and the little people are suddenly kind of in the same room. And that can be terrifying. It's especially terrifying if you're a big person, right?
But then you get to places where it becomes implemented in terms of various kinds of speech codes, as well as hiring policies at universities, at corporations, because corporations are not in the business. Corporations are just doing whatever they can do to make the next buck.
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