Nick Goodall

So I've got to give you props there.

On the sort of style or attributes of leaders, what attributes or attributes do you think

are required to be a strong leader in the finance industry.

Yeah, absolutely.

Two great points.

Now, I'm going to have to go away from quickfire because it's triggered something in my mind that we have to at least broach very briefly.

And that is that when I hear curiosity, I always think about what everyone talks about with AI and, you know, everything that's going on in that space, right?

They just go, just be curious, go and use all the tools you can use.

You know, you can find some efficiency.

So in the AI space,

What tools are you guys using?

Have you guys embraced that fully?

Have you guys been able to, you know, let the advisors take advantage of that?

What's the loan market done in that AI space?

I'm intrigued to know.

Very exciting.

I mean, that's what it's all about, right?

Using AI to free up maybe the monotonous tasks that give you more time to go face to face.

And those tools are certainly going to help that.

And yes, Jeff from Afterburner has also been on our podcast.