Nick Goodall

But again, if we focus on those Gen Z people, that generation, that we see that 33% of Gen Z have actually made significant energy upgrades to their property once they do get their house.

compared to 25% of the older generation in that baby boomer space.

Do you think that's also a situation where it's more about awareness and understanding of the options out there, or a bit of a combination of those things?

What's your take, maybe your experience through understanding, you know, we're going through a pretty fast changing time through climate change and sustainable options and housing.

Where do you sit with all that?

Heck yeah.

I mean, there's no better examples more recently than all the storms that are coming through and the extra flooding that's, you know, the more frequent one in 100 year floods, which seem to happen much more often than one in 100 years.

So, yeah, it's certainly becoming more prevalent.

And it's good to see, you know, people recognising that, like I say, more people that are comfortable, I suppose, those younger generations get to understand that.

But at the same time, I think your point's right about that cost of living, that actually the good thing now is that even, I don't know, five or 10 years ago, you would be putting solar on or you'd be making these sustainability improvements, but often because it felt like the right thing to do, the cost payback wasn't really there.

But even in the short five or 10 year period, I went to the New Zealand Green Building Council 20th anniversary the other week, and just how fast it's moved now to not just be the best thing for the environment, but you genuinely can save money

by doing these more sustainable options too.

So once again, hopefully this sparks that conversation, sparks that education across generations, and we see more people taking hold of that, and that starts to improve our housing stock over time as well, our energy efficiency, the amount of energy we can consume, all of these things are heading in the right direction, but I suppose it can't happen fast enough.

So it's heading in the right direction once again, but hopefully it happens even faster than we've been seeing so far.

Totally.

That's the kicker, right?

Once the finance companies are involved, then it starts to make a real difference.

So, yeah, it is great to see them all embracing that.

And whether it is you're building to a higher building code or the green options, it's a great, great point.

All right.