Nick Groff

Debbie was very outspoken. So Debbie was just very like, shut up, Mark, you don't know. And Mark would be like, all right, Debbie, come on, stop it. You know, that, seriously, that type of stuff all the time, constant.

Debbie was very outspoken. So Debbie was just very like, shut up, Mark, you don't know. And Mark would be like, all right, Debbie, come on, stop it. You know, that, seriously, that type of stuff all the time, constant.

So I actually pitched Mark and Debbie Constantino and their family with everything they do and their family to this company. We partnered up, all of us, and we had a crew go off, film everything at their house and film with them for a while and put a whole sizzle reel together that was produced. So yeah, and then that was being pitched around to different networks back then for the cable network.

So I actually pitched Mark and Debbie Constantino and their family with everything they do and their family to this company. We partnered up, all of us, and we had a crew go off, film everything at their house and film with them for a while and put a whole sizzle reel together that was produced. So yeah, and then that was being pitched around to different networks back then for the cable network.

So I actually pitched Mark and Debbie Constantino and their family with everything they do and their family to this company. We partnered up, all of us, and we had a crew go off, film everything at their house and film with them for a while and put a whole sizzle reel together that was produced. So yeah, and then that was being pitched around to different networks back then for the cable network.

So that's why I got really, really familiar with them. And I started learning a lot about the family and seeing them and talking to them and everything.

So that's why I got really, really familiar with them. And I started learning a lot about the family and seeing them and talking to them and everything.

So that's why I got really, really familiar with them. And I started learning a lot about the family and seeing them and talking to them and everything.

Being on the conference calls with them was very argumental. Not with them, but them two together were arguing all the time on the calls. You know, like, shut up, no, my turn to talk, no, my turn to talk. Like, it was very like a lot of that. But everyone else was cool with them, and they were super nice to everyone else.

Being on the conference calls with them was very argumental. Not with them, but them two together were arguing all the time on the calls. You know, like, shut up, no, my turn to talk, no, my turn to talk. Like, it was very like a lot of that. But everyone else was cool with them, and they were super nice to everyone else.

Being on the conference calls with them was very argumental. Not with them, but them two together were arguing all the time on the calls. You know, like, shut up, no, my turn to talk, no, my turn to talk. Like, it was very like a lot of that. But everyone else was cool with them, and they were super nice to everyone else.

But just, I was like, man, it's just, you know, it's just very toxic in that kind of relationship. I guess it wasn't my place, nor did I, like, dissect their marriage or them as people. It was more like being a third party, being there, present when someone is telling another person, like, shut up, stop talking. Like, I don't operate like that with my wife or my family.

But just, I was like, man, it's just, you know, it's just very toxic in that kind of relationship. I guess it wasn't my place, nor did I, like, dissect their marriage or them as people. It was more like being a third party, being there, present when someone is telling another person, like, shut up, stop talking. Like, I don't operate like that with my wife or my family.

But just, I was like, man, it's just, you know, it's just very toxic in that kind of relationship. I guess it wasn't my place, nor did I, like, dissect their marriage or them as people. It was more like being a third party, being there, present when someone is telling another person, like, shut up, stop talking. Like, I don't operate like that with my wife or my family.

I don't like talk or degrade or, you know, down my significant other. So for me mentally, I was like, man, you guys are some rough individuals. Maybe that's just your upbringing. Maybe that's how you guys are. I don't know. Maybe that's how it works. But it just kind of makes you feel uncomfortable at times, or it did for me. But other than that, I just kind of looked away from it.

I don't like talk or degrade or, you know, down my significant other. So for me mentally, I was like, man, you guys are some rough individuals. Maybe that's just your upbringing. Maybe that's how you guys are. I don't know. Maybe that's how it works. But it just kind of makes you feel uncomfortable at times, or it did for me. But other than that, I just kind of looked away from it.

I don't like talk or degrade or, you know, down my significant other. So for me mentally, I was like, man, you guys are some rough individuals. Maybe that's just your upbringing. Maybe that's how you guys are. I don't know. Maybe that's how it works. But it just kind of makes you feel uncomfortable at times, or it did for me. But other than that, I just kind of looked away from it.

would have never imagined in my million years i just thought that's how they were and that's just how they live life and maybe that's how some people are you know because you just don't know but i never imagined uh that i just thought you know i don't know i thought that they it's just weird it's like they're they're together for so long you think that okay they're at like a certain age and they're together and this is just how they'll and like they'll be the rest of their life right like older couple fighting all the time but loving too

would have never imagined in my million years i just thought that's how they were and that's just how they live life and maybe that's how some people are you know because you just don't know but i never imagined uh that i just thought you know i don't know i thought that they it's just weird it's like they're they're together for so long you think that okay they're at like a certain age and they're together and this is just how they'll and like they'll be the rest of their life right like older couple fighting all the time but loving too

would have never imagined in my million years i just thought that's how they were and that's just how they live life and maybe that's how some people are you know because you just don't know but i never imagined uh that i just thought you know i don't know i thought that they it's just weird it's like they're they're together for so long you think that okay they're at like a certain age and they're together and this is just how they'll and like they'll be the rest of their life right like older couple fighting all the time but loving too