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Nick Harkaway

👤 Speaker
348 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And when I started doing it, yes, it was terrifying.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

But it also became something that I loved.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

I mean, some nonspecific things.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

I wanted a literary apprenticeship with my dad because I watched him write.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

I learned writing from him by osmosis, but we never really talked about writing very much.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And so the idea of sitting down and holding the controls of the machine

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

and operating it the way he did and working with those characters was a way to learn, which I wanted.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

I think he wanted, I mean, I think first of all, it was because he wanted to say that the spy world is not the world of James Bond, the one that he knew.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

Yeah, and, you know, in the UK you had James Bond, you had Bulldog Drummond, you had these very, you know, very much action hero type spy stories.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And his experience was not that.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

It wasn't these sort of,

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

incredibly energetic, combat-orientated people, you know, sort of flawless heroes.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

It was ordinary people doing a hard, endless, possibly slightly futile thing and banging up against their own flaws.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And he wanted, you know, to show the humanity.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

Showing the humanity so that you can understand it and feel compassionate about it is a big part of everything he wrote.

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John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

So I think that's where it is.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And Smiley is in many ways the epitome of that.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

He's just this guy.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

And yet at the same time, of course, he's this tremendously intelligent reasoner and he's empathic and he understands people before they understand themselves.

Fresh Air
John Le Carré’s Son Revives His Late Dad's Spy

For Smiley, the experience of returning to the circus that evening was like a willed drowning.