Nick Henderson

As we see it, quite a lot of the ARP accommodation would never be accommodation that would go on to the private rented market.

It could be a room, it could be a so-called granny flat that would never end up on the private rented market in the first place, so it's not drawing away supply from that market.

But if those concerns do exist, I think they can be addressed either on a local authority, county level, or in other ways.

And it's also a crucial safety net to avoid people falling ultimately into homelessness.

42,000 people living in that type of accommodation.

But for that, they would be going to the private rented market itself.

So it's

It's a really crucial safeguard in that respect.

Maybe.

And we're certainly not saying that everybody won't be able to move out that 18,000 figure.

Those people won't be able to move out.

Some will be able to move out.

There's no doubt about that.

And with the right timeline and the right supports in place.

It is possible, but our concern would be that for the people who are in very vulnerable situations or have a vulnerability, and I know the Minister has said that there would be safeguards for them, we'd have to see what they look like.

um but our concern would also be as as we've discussed just now the the the difficulty with the private rented market how difficult it is to provide to find um a private rented accommodation and and there is another case study for this which is the 5 000 people stuck in ipas accommodation

who themselves also have status, they theoretically can move on out into society, but they struggle to do so.

So this situation is here because it is either reliance on hotels and the reliance on the ARP payment.

These two safeguards or these provisions exist.

because the private rented sector is so difficult to enter.