Nick Jonas

We don't care where you hear it.

It seemed very crazy.

But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.

Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?

No.

I didn't want to manifest that.

I was trying to manifest success.

Every family has its secrets.

So the word that I try to push back on would be ethno-supremacist.

The concept of Israel when it was founded was to be a place where Jews around the world who had been living stateless for 1,800 years and had suffered through –

you know, whether it was the pogroms in Russia or the Inquisition in Spain or the Holocaust in Germany.

I mean, just a litany of a history.

The idea that there should be one place on the planet where the Jewish people can claim citizenship because of who they are.

That is what the state of Israel was founded on.

The people who founded

the state of Israel, of course, were by and large socialist, right?

I mean, it was a very left of center place and the ideals of socialism and the ideals of creating a Jewish home coexisted in the state.

And it was, you know, really the dominant ideology.

It is not per se that right wing ethno-nationalists like

Bibi Netanyahu, Itamar Ben-Gur, Bitzalos Motrich, the ambassador here in the U.S., Yahiel Leiter.