Nick Lane

Right.

in the way that the physicists very often do and just say, well, here's how I see it.

Here's the questions through my eyes.

And you've got to try and be honest and say, okay, I see it this way.

Other people see it differently.

Yes.

I mean, I did my best to explain it in the book and it seems that I didn't do a great job of it, but

There's so much detail and you can't avoid that because it's there in the questions.

And this is a problem with biology is it's incredibly complex.

And physicists look at biology and they think, well, it's just too hard to explain.

And biologists have got all of these terminology and often get lost in the terminology.

And I find myself by nature confused.

trying to find simple common denominators and that lends itself then to writing about them.

But of course I probably oversimplify all the time or maybe I fail and don't simplify it enough, but you wrestle with it and you try and make it work.

And it's actually, it's genuinely interesting for me to talk to you and the other guys in the book club to see where you were struggling with it and where you were, you know, I will build this into next time I'm writing a book, I'll try and figure out, okay, how do I do that better?