Nick Lane

And we need more data on what actually is it really just in one of these respiratory complexes, complex one?

So there's lots of standard molecular biology that we can do.

And he's beginning to point to this idea that, yes, there's something going on about the way that complex one works, which may link to generating fields that may link to how anesthetics work.

And that's...

It's just fun.

The thing that's great about science is it's really fun.

And it's one thing I'm always trying to get across to the people in my lab.

You can't forget the fun.

If it becomes drudgery, then best go because you'll make much more money somewhere else.

You'll have a better life somewhere else.

But if what you really care about is the science and the experiments, it's got to be fun.

You've got to really enjoy wanting to go and do that.

And I have to say, one of the great things for me is it's always been fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, thank you.

I mean, I think the physicists are very good at writing books about the big questions of the universe.

And there's a large readership for having your mind blown by a book that you're not going to understand everything because you know it's difficult.

And how do we know anything at all about the Big Bang or how black holes work or background radiation or whatever it may be?

And with life, the origin of life or the trajectory of life on a planet and whether we get complex life inevitably or whether we're going to get stuck with bacteria in most places, these are big questions, universe-sized questions.

And there's not many people writing about them and trying to take you to the edge of what we know.