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Nick Lane

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Hydrogen, oxygen, these are all elements that are very, very common in the universe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So you're going to keep on getting this same kind of chemistry everywhere.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

We know that there are, from discoveries of exoplanets in recent years, if you extrapolate how many we've not seen yet, the number of wet rocky planets or moons in, say, the Milky Way, is probably in the order of 20, 30, 40 billion of them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

I mean, I'll take a punt here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

I would expect that if you've got these same kind of conditions on a wet, rocky planet, you're going to be producing these same kind of vents because it's the same chemistry that's going to happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

You're going to be dealing with hydrogen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

No, the vents are produced by a mineral called olivine, which again is really common in interstellar dust.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And the mantle of the Earth is made of this mineral called olivine.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And it will react with water.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And when it reacts with water, it's slow.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

If you were to put a lump of olivine in a bucket of water, you'll not see very much.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

But if you're dealing with the pressures down at the bottom of the ocean and warmer temperatures and so on, you're producing bucket loads of hydrogen gas in alkaline fluids.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So that's what these hydrothermal vents are.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So any wet rocky planet will produce these vents.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

There's evidence for them on Mars from the early days of Mars when there were oceans on Mars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

There's evidence now on moons, the icy moons Enceladus and Europa.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

You know, this is going on in our own solar system right now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

I mean, my view would be yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Any rocky planet would have a decent, yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane – Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And if you're starting with CO2 and hydrogen, what I'm saying is the metabolism is thermodynamically favored chemistry.