Nick Martell
👤 SpeakerVoice Profile Active
This person's voice can be automatically recognized across podcast episodes using AI voice matching.
Appearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
So an independent board...
becomes the decision maker of Ben & Jerry's, even though somebody else, Unilever, owns Ben & Jerry's.
Totally unprecedented.
And the lawyers must have told you as much.
This is the worst thing we've ever seen in our lives.
Was it to the detail, Ben, where it was like, they would say like, hey, we got to go with these cheap cashews.
And you guys could say, no, no, no, no.
We're going to do fair trade cashews from Brazil.
They cost three times as much, but we're doing it.
But amazingly enough,
And for a while, the relationship worked, right?
Like Paul Polman, when I was at business school, I studied him.
He was...
A sustainability guy, right?
Within big corporations.
You guys influenced Unilever too.
I think it did have an effect.
So this unusual relationship worked for a while.
You lived under the same roof and everyone was happy because Ben & Jerry's became the top selling brand in the United States.
But this all came to a head in 2024 and 2025.