Nick Nisi

You're a PHP guy, though, aren't you, Nick? I'm starting to be more. But I would go, yeah. Do you have a Lambo yet? Not yet. Not yet.

I didn't know the podcast was open though. So when you go to their website, it's not very clear that it is, which kind of is a bummer. But I, I agree with you, Jared. I think it's super cool that when he does like day one, I was a fan of day one. It was awesome. Probably one of the best Mac apps to journal personally.

I didn't know the podcast was open though. So when you go to their website, it's not very clear that it is, which kind of is a bummer. But I, I agree with you, Jared. I think it's super cool that when he does like day one, I was a fan of day one. It was awesome. Probably one of the best Mac apps to journal personally.

It's such a cool application and podcast of old and a whole different show, different idea. I think it was called the Industry Radio Show back with like Drew Wilson and Jared Arandu, a different Jared Arandu, sorry. We podcast with the creator of that back in the day. It was like an indie startup that got acquired by Automatic and then it was open source, I believe too.

It's such a cool application and podcast of old and a whole different show, different idea. I think it was called the Industry Radio Show back with like Drew Wilson and Jared Arandu, a different Jared Arandu, sorry. We podcast with the creator of that back in the day. It was like an indie startup that got acquired by Automatic and then it was open source, I believe too.

Simple Note was part of that. You know, he's got a track record of doing the right thing, I think. Which I do think it's surprising his seemingly harsh way to put this cat out of the bag or push it out of the bag or let it out of the bag. There's some context I'm assuming that's missing because this doesn't seem characteristic of his past behavior.

Simple Note was part of that. You know, he's got a track record of doing the right thing, I think. Which I do think it's surprising his seemingly harsh way to put this cat out of the bag or push it out of the bag or let it out of the bag. There's some context I'm assuming that's missing because this doesn't seem characteristic of his past behavior.

What was this feature that they disabled, Jared? I was reading something while you were sharing that context.

What was this feature that they disabled, Jared? I was reading something while you were sharing that context.

And that's part of the beauty of a startup too. For sure. Is that you don't have to be named adjacent. or similarly to be successful, Flywood did a great job. They were very innovative early on and they ran WordPress websites very fast and they were competitive with WP Engine. Yeah, they were a great company. Nick, you said that we should be on the side of open source, right?

And that's part of the beauty of a startup too. For sure. Is that you don't have to be named adjacent. or similarly to be successful, Flywood did a great job. They were very innovative early on and they ran WordPress websites very fast and they were competitive with WP Engine. Yeah, they were a great company. Nick, you said that we should be on the side of open source, right?

We should be on the side of WordPress. I mostly agree with that. We should. I'm not against open source. I want to be clear with that. That was very foreboding, wasn't it? I'm for the freedom. I'm for the freedom. Again, I don't think it's cool that WP Engine doesn't give back. There's some context maybe we're missing there. Maybe it's a private equity thing.

We should be on the side of WordPress. I mostly agree with that. We should. I'm not against open source. I want to be clear with that. That was very foreboding, wasn't it? I'm for the freedom. I'm for the freedom. Again, I don't think it's cool that WP Engine doesn't give back. There's some context maybe we're missing there. Maybe it's a private equity thing.

Maybe it's we haven't done – maybe they got a good reason. Maybe they have a reason period that's their prerogative. But that is the freedom and free of open source in my opinion. It is not cool. Does that elicit this kind of response? Like for the founder, the creator of WordPress to go on stage and say, you guys are jerks. Like, is that, is this that egregious of an offense?

Maybe it's we haven't done – maybe they got a good reason. Maybe they have a reason period that's their prerogative. But that is the freedom and free of open source in my opinion. It is not cool. Does that elicit this kind of response? Like for the founder, the creator of WordPress to go on stage and say, you guys are jerks. Like, is that, is this that egregious of an offense?

I think it's not cool. I don't think it's the place for the stage of the WordPress or the WordCamp keynote. It could be a blog post like, hey, private equity, siphoning off money, WordPress open source, help me get behind this. Not so much ban them, but like this is not cool. Can we convince them to change their behavior versus like get out of here? You're not welcome here anymore as a sponsor.

I think it's not cool. I don't think it's the place for the stage of the WordPress or the WordCamp keynote. It could be a blog post like, hey, private equity, siphoning off money, WordPress open source, help me get behind this. Not so much ban them, but like this is not cool. Can we convince them to change their behavior versus like get out of here? You're not welcome here anymore as a sponsor.

You're being banned. If we want to have a free world in terms of open source, we have to have a free world in terms of participation as well.

You're being banned. If we want to have a free world in terms of open source, we have to have a free world in terms of participation as well.

It's a big difference.